You may not take this idea very seriously but I could make Avara levels in Greatworks meaning since VRML failed, the Symantec Web is a Metaverse whereas the normal WWW isn't

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Symantec Greatworks

- Can be used to create and view documents and newsletters
- Can be used to create spreadsheets
- Can be used to create databases
- Can connect to BBSes via a standard modem
- Compatible with "Avara"

Web Browsers

- Can be used to create and view documents and newsletters
- Can be used to create spreadsheets
- Databases require an addon such as Microsoft Azure
- Support for serial connections is inconsistent at best https://caniuse.com/?search=web%20serial
- Not compatible with "Avara"

@mcc I wasn’t really familiar with Symantec back in the 90s, but something about that name made my brain itch. Looked it up, and Avara was originally written for Symantec’s THINK C compiler! The first thing @vertigo had to do was convert it all to C++. We’ve also developed new asset formats (and conversion utilities from the old formats) so unfortunately GreatWorks may no longer be directly compatible. Can it output plain text files? 😆

@silverfox @vertigo oh!

What I meant was, I think the original Avara used PICT draw format? Which if I remember right both ClarisWorks and GreatWorks could open. I definitely opened Avara level files in one of those two.

I'm really curious to try the Avara revival!

@mcc @vertigo it absolutely did! The game read the PICT/QuickDraw opcodes to assign colors, positions, and/or dimensions to objects. Additional properties (including position/size for the third dimension) were specified via text blocks within the PICT data. It’s almost like the PICT was machine code for some level-building VM. Pretty brilliant! These days we use a much more boring XML-based format, but…QuickDraw isn’t exactly around anymore.